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Elrond Burrell's avatar

I agree with a lot of the sentiment of your summary, Lloyd. But two things still bother me about it:

1. “getting through this crisis” - climate change is not something we can or will get through. It’s a *predicament* we now face, not a problem we solve and then life goes “back to normal.” Even if we stopped all emissions today, the climate has changed and more change is already built in and guaranteed. Everything we do now is essential to mitigate further and more extreme change and to reach a climate equilibrium than we can still exist in.

2. “Now” is not enough. We have to get emissions down now and then we have to keep them down so the climate can stay at a new equilibrium. If we get emissions down now and then they go back to rising in few years time, we are right back into destabilising change. So while upfront emissions are critical, lifecycle and operational emissions are also still critical.

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Bob BAAL's avatar

"In Portugal, you can see the green bars representing wind, solar and hydro dominating electrical generation, growing every year."

The problem with this is that it applies only to Portual. Portual has various advantages that it shares with very frew other countries which means that it's lessons here are of minimal use.

1. Portugal is a small country with no heavy industry.

2. It has a large neighbour that it can power balance against

3. It can access the surplus of power from Spain which imports it from North Africa.

4. It faces the Atlantic which makes its wind farms some of the most productive in the world.

Few other countries have this advantage.

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