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Mark Guslits's avatar

Lloyd, I read your post with sadness. I too teach in that same environment. I too am disparaged as to my classes and the apparent lack of commitment to the standards you and I would have embraced those many years ago. It is harder and harder to get up the energy, year after year, to face the often impenetrable wall of student malaise. There are, as you point out, many committed, excited, inquisitive young minds each year. But fewer and fewer. Or at least fewer and fewer immediately apparent. It is exhausting, frustrating and infuriating. So I too may hang up the teaching spurs this year. Which I will hate to do. I love teaching. But as one of your students said, perhaps I just don't understand the new post- Covid, post reading, post writing, post drawing, post in-person attendance, post respect, post enthusiasm ..... student (and often faculty). If this is the case, perhaps they can be better served by someone of a generation that "gets it", in a way I never will .... and never wish to.

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Brooke Craig's avatar

I retired last year after teaching high school math in large public schools in Colorado. I also have a 19-year old daughter and a 21-year old son, both of whom are attending university and now law school for my son in New Zealand (they’re dual citizens). My colleagues and I have definitely noticed an increased apathy and an increased negative parent involvement in our area. We are in a small conservative town (Rep. Lauren Boebert’s district and avid Trump supporters) but at a school that was intended to be more innovative with its structure and curricula. Probably needless to say, but the school has been pressured by loud parents and some district staff to conform to more traditional models and has lost much of what made the school unique, so I feel that has played some role in our student apathy. If they hear mom complaining about the “weird math” program at home, the kids are probably less apt to be engaged. We’ve also had an uptick in absenteeism, more for mental health than physical probably.

As a mother of the same age group, I struggle in this issue because I was seeing both sides. My son graduated high school in 2021 and struggle immensely during Covid shut downs. He talked to me frequently during his first year of Uni about his fear for the future for his generation - financial, environmental and political and didn’t feel like it was worth bothering to get a degree. His fear at times was almost paralyzing. And I was hearing that from other parents and educators. I convinced him and my daughter, both of whom are intelligent and thoughtful kids who had done well academically, to try university for a year, not because I wasn’t open to them pursuing a non-degree career but because they wanted to live overseas where they didn’t know anyone their own age yet. So I used the first year dorm as an incentive to get an education. While I know my son isn’t necessarily representative of his entire generation, he ended up loving Uni and finished his bachelors and is now in law school. But even he will admit that his fellow law students (some who are only 18 because NZ law programs can start as a bachelors track) seem apathetic and ask what he considers to be stupid questions regarding assignment instructions, etc

So I guess I feel your pain and can see that at least some of our students are truly struggling with health and fear because their world is, in some ways, very different from ours. Yes, their attention spans are trash but then I can’t tell you how many times I was in a staff meeting with other teachers or spending time with my Boomer parents and everyone around me was in their phones instead of listening to others. Now that I’m self-employed and work different hours, I also see Facebook posts and other garbage going up in the middle of the work day for people I know are supposed to be working for someone else. So the apathy isn’t restricted to Gen Z.

I just recently found your Substack through Laura Fenton and I really appreciate your thoughts on our future with climate change. So thanks for keeping up the good fight! As someone who already left the teaching profession (to pursue helping people declutter and live more sustainably), I certainly can’t counsel anyone to stay in teaching. But it sounds like you are making a difference to many and probably even to many of those who aren’t attending.

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