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David Bergman's avatar

I've been objecting to this for a while due to the misleading word embodied. I've been putting carbon in three (and a half) categories: Material production emissions, operating emissions and sequestered carbon. (I can't decide between calling them material or production, so just use both for now.) Production emissions can be upfront (that's the 1/2 of the 3 1/2 categoresi) but also occur during the life and end-of-life of the building, which would means they're not 'upfront.'

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Geoffrey Tanner's avatar

So many threads to pick at here! (And most of those threads wouldn't even exist if we all lived in a world of "sufficiency"). I'm not downplaying the importance of CO2 but it sure has eclipsed a lot of other issues. I lived in the woods in Nova Scotia for 15 years and got radicalized about what we have done to our forests. If we were intensively growing wood in small areas to harvest carbon and put it in buildings maybe that would be a net benefit but we are not doing that. We are absolutely raping our forests from coast to coast to coast. Same goes for hydropower. Great, it doesn't emit operational carbon but it's hardly clean. It destroys vast tracts of land and forest. And often, the areas it destroys are important to indigenous people.

An anecdote. I once built an addition for a friend. There was a beam in it that was about six times bigger than it needed to be. My friend was proud that all the lumber was FSC but I pointed out to him that I could build a whole shed out of the wood in that one beam! I'm with you Lloyd. SUFFICIENCY!

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